Use v2 for thinking/planning or the opus4.8?

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by RodrigoTata - opened

Hi, I want to ask if you recommend the V2 or the gemma-4-12B-it-Claude-4.6-4.8-Opus-GGUF for thinking, planning, analyzing code architecture, security analysis (cybersecurity), etc.

My plan is to use a Q8 on my 5070ti for thinking and then Qwen3.5-9b Q5 with a 100k context window for coding (as worker, like gemini 3.0 flash)

Thanks


Hi @RodrigoTata β€” for that role (the "brain": thinking, planning, architecture review, security analysis) I'd pick the
main distillation, gemma-4-12B-it-Claude-4.6-4.8-Opus-GGUF, not v2.

Reason: that one is black-box distilled from Claude Opus reasoning traces, with a thinking channel β€” it's tuned for
exactly this kind of open-ended analysis, planning and explanation. v2 is the opposite specialization: it's fine-tuned
for agentic coding execution β€” driving tools, editing/running files, multi-step task loops (that's the tau2-bench
telecom 15β†’55% you see in the name). It's the model you'd reach for if you wanted the Gemma side to do the coding β€”
but in your setup that's Qwen's job. v2 also traded some general-knowledge breadth for that coding/agentic focus, so
as a pure planner it's a slightly worse fit than the Opus distillation.

So your architect/worker split is the right idea β€” just assign it this way:

  • Planner / architect / security analysis β†’ main Opus distillation (Q8)
  • Coding worker β†’ Qwen as you planned (though if you ever want to A/B it, v2 is literally built to be a good agentic
    worker too)

A few practical notes:

  • Q8 (~12.7 GB) fits your 5070 Ti's 16 GB with room for a normal planning context. Keep the 100k window on the Qwen
    worker as planned β€” the planner doesn't need it.
  • The main repo also ships an MTP draft (MTP/ folder) for speculative decoding β€” worth enabling, since a "thinking"
    model emits a lot of tokens and you'll feel the speedup.
  • Honest caveat: both are 12B. They're good at structuring a plan, threat-modeling, or explaining an architecture, but
    for deep cybersecurity analysis don't expect frontier-level depth β€” treat the output as a strong first pass to
    verify, not ground truth.

Either way you can run both side by side and see which planner you like better. Thanks for the thoughtful setup β€” let
me know how the pipeline works out.

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